3-24-2 Gamanavaggo | Samyutta

II. The Second Trip

19 (1) Winds

At Sāvatthī.

Bhikkhus, when what exists, by clinging to what, by adhering to what, does such a view as this arise:

‘The winds do not blow, the rivers do not flow, pregnant women do not give birth, the moon and sun do not rise and set but stand as steady as a pillar’?

Venerable sir, our teachings are rooted in the Blessed One….

When there is form, Bhikkhus, by clinging to form, by adhering to form, such a view as this arises:

- ‘The winds do not blow … but stand as steady as a pillar.’

When there is feeling … perception … volitional formations … consciousness, by clinging to consciousness, by adhering to consciousness, such a view as this arises:

- ‘The winds do not blow … but stand as steady as a pillar.’

What do you think, Bhikkhus, is form … … consciousness permanent or impermanent?

Impermanent, venerable sir.…

But without clinging to what is impermanent, suffering, and subject to change, could such a view as that arise?

No, venerable sir.

Thus, Bhikkhus, when there is suffering, it is by clinging to suffering, by adhering to suffering, that such a view as this arises:

- ‘The winds do not blow … but stand as steady as a pillar.’

20 (2)–36 (18) This Is Mine, Etc.

(These Suttas repeat the views of 24:2–18, but modelled on the above paradigm.)

37 (19) A Self Consisting of Form

At Sāvatthī.

Bhikkhus, when what is present … … does such a view as this arises:

- ‘The self consists of form and is unimpaired after death’?…

38 (20) A Formless Self

At Sāvatthī. Bhikkhus, when what is present … does such a view as this arises:

- ‘The self is formless and is unimpaired after death’?…